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Redfin Transforms: The End of the Beginning?

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end.  But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

- Sir Winston Churchill

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One of the true pioneers of the new generation of real estate companies, Redfin, has launched a new partner program:

Redfin released a sprawling, glorious update to our website last night that changes Redfin in two fundamental ways:

  1. We built data-driven agent profiles, showing every deal our own agents have done and every customer review, even on deals that failed.
  2. We opened up our business to partner agents and we published all their deals too, surveying old customers for reviews.

How does this change Redfin as a company? Well, when we upgraded our own service last November to offer unlimited home tours and a choice of agents, everyone said we were becoming less virtual. And now that we’re connecting consumers with partner agents, folks will say we’ve become more virtual.

Actually, I think the change to Redfin as a company is far deeper and far more subtle than what folks will say.

The Peanut Gallery

A hint of what’s changed comes from Gregg Swann of the Bloodhound Blog:

If Redfin can make five figures a day on what may not even amount to a single full-time staff line, that’s a killer business.

Maybe even such a killer business that it will replace client-representation altogether. Implausible? One of Redfin’s planned expansion cities is Phoenix — where our numbers are worse than Kitsap’s. Of the RE 2.0 players, only Estately.com does anything like this, but Redfin could go into the referral business virtually anywhere, virtually overnight.

And Louis Cammarosano of HomeGain said with maximum succinctness, over Twitter: “It means they are becoming like Homegain.

John Cook at TechFlash took Redfin to task:

The concept is not new. In fact, Seattle area companies such as Estately and HouseValues.com also earn money through agent referrals. But the program is a big switch for Redfin, which has always touted the customer service focus of its agents. Kelman said he was “terrified” that the partner program “could screw up the brand.” That’s why the company interviewed all of the partner agents and implemented an agent review system on the Redfin Web site. It also reserves the right to remove partner agents that are not living up to customer service requirements.

Kelman downplayed the possibility that Redfin would move entirely to a partner model. “There is something in Redfin’s blood that we like having direct relationships with the customer,” he said.

This change is a fundamental one.  This is not a mere extension of the Redfin model and philosophy.  It’s something else.

What Was Actually Done

TechFlash post above actually has a pretty good brief description of what Redfin actually launched:

Starting today, the company has aligned itself with 35 real estate agents from 13 different brokerage firms in nine counties. The agents, which receive a profle page on Redfin and must have completed 15 transactions, pay Redfin a 30 percent referral fee on any completed deals. Redfin then refunds 15 percent of that fee to home buyers, keeping the other 15 percent.

But Redfin has more info on this front:

Every single one of these partners committed to our consumer-friendly values as a prerequisite to joining the program:

  1. Technology: the partner refunds part of his commission to the client because the client asks for service online using our tools.
  2. Service: the partner is not allowed to do any of the funny-business around forcing someone to use him when buying a house; the partner earns more when the client is satisfied.
  3. Transparency: the partner publishes information about all his deals, and all his reviews; the partner provides the service requested by the consumer and nothing more unless asked.

Furthermore, rather than sending the “leads” to the agent (or multiple agents), the Redfin model places that power in the consumer’s hands.  The consumer sees the deals, failed deals, activities, etc. of the partner agent, then actively chooses to contact that particular agent.

So, the major differences between Redfin and other models are:

  • Power to choose in the hands of consumer
  • Transparency on agent quality metrics
  • Refund back to the consumer

But all of that, still, fails to address the central, subtle, and fundamental change.

The Change

Basically, by going to a ‘partner’ model, Redfin is no longer responsible for the consumer service experience.

Now, Glenn Kelman and others at Redfin vigorously dispute this:

The story said that we had been “terrified” about potential problems in our partners’ customer service without explaining that we said that to introduce the steps we took to avoid those problems. (emphasis added)

And

We planned for Redfin’s partner program in a financial model built in 2007. We experimented with it earlier than that, canceling the program in 2006 after it became clear that we had no way of being accountable for good service to the client.

We could have offered a year ago the referral programs typical in the industry, selling the client out to multiple unnamed agents for a fee. There was ample financial pressure to do so. We stuck to our guns to create something much better, building an entire accountability system and a set of tools for a client to ask a particular agent to perform a particular service, interviewing every partner agent in person, and checking each agent’s references over a year back, so we could offer a partner program consistent with our values. These values are why we radically cut the profitability of the program by offering half our fee back to the consumer. (Emphasis added)

For what it’s worth, I completely believe Redfin.  And furthermore, Redfin might very well be successful.

I'll Show You the Money!!!

Redfin's Ambassador of Kwan

However, there is a large gap between “building an entire accountability system” and actually being accountable.

Redfin is a brokerage in the markets in which it is active.  The agents who work for Redfin are employees of Redfin, and Redfin as an entity is accountable to the actual consumer for the service experience.  In fact, while I don’t know for sure, I’m going to guess that Redfin has a certain “Redfin Way” of “Redfin Service Standards” or whatever that it enforces on its agents.

If I’m a Redfin agent, and I don’t live up to Redfin’s performance standards, then Redfin has a variety of tools and methods at its disposal to enforce standards.  With these partner agents, no matter how well Redfin screens ‘em, Redfin only has one way to enforce standards: remove them from the program.

If I pick a partner agent, and have a terrible experience, who do I get to blame?

The Liability Question

A way to crystallize the issue is to consider legal liability.

Suppose that some unhappy consumer sues the partner agent after a deal goes south.  (Not saying this would happen, but thinking about lawsuits help clarify some issues.)

Im blind for a reason...

I'm blind for a reason...

The agent’s actual broker would be named in the lawsuit, since legally, the agent is just representing the broker.  The broker’s E&O insurance would come into play, and the lawsuit would then focus on whether the agent’s acts/omissions rose to the level of professional malpractice.  The broker’s processes, standards, training, screening, etc. would all become relevant as to establishing liability under respondeat superior theory.

Where does Redfin fit into this?

On the one hand, the consumer would absolutely sue Redfin.  After all, Redfin supposedly screened all of its partners, and built an “entire accountability system”.  That a crappy agent slipped through resulting in a big loss for the consumer means that the consumer has a reason to sue Redfin.  After all, he went to Redfin to find an agent, and relied upon Redfin’s representation as to quality, professionalism, and ethics.

On the other hand, Redfin’s defense would presumably be along the lines of, “We ain’t the boss”.  They would presumably assert that respondeat superior does not apply in their case, because the agent doesn’t work for them.  They don’t control the agent’s actions.  All they’ve done is made an introduction between the consumer and the partner agent, and the consumer chose to work with that particular agent.

(I suppose, in theory, Redfin could choose NOT to fight liability and embrace it wholeheartedly in order to preserve their ideal of customer service… but I doubt that very much.  Lawsuits focus the mind in interesting ways.  Plus, does Redfin’s E&O insurance even cover these ‘partner agents’?  Would Redfin’s insurer really agree to that without a substantial hike in premiums?)

If the agent’s broker — the actual “boss” in theory — is held liable, would they not consider bringing Redfin in as a third party defendant?  Or bring an indemnity claim that goes something like, “Your program caused our otherwise ethical agent to do bad things, so now you owe us money”?  I know I would advise the broker to bring such a suit, were I representing them.

With the other lead-gen sites, like Homegain or HouseValues, these issues never arise.  All that those sites promise to consumers is that someone will be in touch, and they pass the lead on.  They’re merely a marketing conduit.

Redfin’s program goes far, far beyond that… but they’re not ultimately accountable to the consumer client from what I can tell.

The Brand and Ideals Question

That Redfin would disavow responsibility for a poor consumer experience through Redfin is, to say the least, a sea change.  As Glenn says quite passionately:

We will always, always fight for the consumer: exposing information about agent performance the world has never seen, offering the best value we can, paying our agents based on customer satisfaction, negotiating with Realtor associations to publish more data.

This is an emotional issue for us. We are less interested in proving TechFlash wrong, or even in convincing you that Redfin will succeed or fail — which is still an open question — than we are in establishing what this company stands for: making the real estate industry better for the consumer. Maybe nobody else cares that this company actually stands for something. But we do. We always will.

Does that include accepting legal liablity for the actions of your ‘partner agents’?  If it does, then in what way are those ‘partner agents’ different from your own employees — except that they’re not really subject to discipline/training/enforcement by you?

If it does not, if Redfin’s program stops short of accepting legal liability for the misconduct or negligence by partner agents, then that is a fundamental change in the Redfin brand.  And I daresay it represents a change of the Redfin ideals in a subtle, yet profound, way.  Sure, Redfin can still work to make the real estate industry better for the consumer.  But it won’t do it directly, by training its agents, by implementing its policies and procedures, and by serving the consumer.

That might be fine; might even be great.  Maybe Redfin overcomes some of the acrimony built up over the years this way.

But it is a fundamental change.  He who pays you is your customer.

This is perhaps the end of the beginning...

This is perhaps the end of the beginning...

The End of the Beginning

For the industry, I think Redfin’s move represents the end of the first wave of Real Estate 2.0.  The implication appears to be that new companies cannot implement new business models for real estate.  Trulia and Zillow are not real estate companies; they are media companies in the real estate space.  They make money from advertising.

Homegain, HouseValues, Estately and so on are also pseudo-media companies, but with a pay-for-performance type of ad model.

Redfin was the pioneer of a new model, centered around a fantastic website, direct consumer engagement, and a novel refund concept.  Their obsession with transparency, truly excellent user experience online, and “freakish depth” was the precursor to what the brokerage of the future might look like.

That chapter, I think, now comes to a close.  The new real estate companies have found that they cannot make money directly from consumers.  Okay, fine.  What does the next chapter look like?

No one knows of course.  But it does seem to me that the battle lines are getting drawn as follows:

On the one hand, the new entrants must find ways to derive revenues from real estate agents; on the other hand, the existing brokerages must find ways to make consumers happier and provide more value to its agents.  The midgame, then, represents a struggle on the one hand over consumer service/experience coupled to value delivery to agents, and a struggle on the other hand over getting money out of agents.

We are living through interesting times in real estate.

-rsh

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Independent Study Shows Trulia As #1 Threat To Franchisors

According to this post on the Trulia Blog, Trulia is the #1 lead generator in the RE.net:

Threewide’s ListHub, the most widely adopted network for listing distribution, works in concert with MLSs, various franchises and brokerages, and core real estate technologies to bring real estate companies a single dashboard for controlling their online marketing strategy.  Analyzing the traffic that’s sent to clients from their syndication feeds, Threewide found some interesting results.  Here are some highlights:

  • Study analyzed about 600k listings sent from MLSs and brokers to 16 of the largest real estate sites for the month of October 2008
  • Trulia generated the most leads* in this period with almost 12,500 – over 30% of all client leads!
  • The second closest competitor had just over 15% of all leads and the 3rd just over 12%, with the top 5 making up almost 80% of all leads sent
  • Trulia had the highest percentage of redirected traffic** with over 35% of all traffic sent to ListHub clients
  • Finally,  over 8,000 listings received at least 1 lead from a consumer coming directly from Trulia, with our nearest competitor sending traffic resulting in leads for  a little over 3,600 listings

These statistics show that Trulia delivers the most leads, and in these challenging times we all know how important that is!  AND, considering that some of the 600K listings sent to Trulia were already being displayed from other broker listing sources and thus not actively displayed on the site to prevent showing duplicate listings, the actual percentage of leads sent from Trulia to Threewide’s clients is even better than the original report shows.

This is, of course, great news for Trulia.  The data supports Trulia’s business model and its claims overall.  So first off, kudos and congratulations to the Trulia crew!

However, as much as I like the boys and girls and Trulia, I have been saying since the beginning of this blog that Trulia poses a threat to franchisors and large brokerages.  Trulia has steadily denied such a thing, pointing out that they work with and for brokers and agents.

The thing is this: I look at consequences, not intent.  I have little doubt that Trulia intends to be a helpful partner to brokers and franchisors.  But the consequences of that may be entirely different from what was expected.

Consider the above news from the perspective of the average agent.

What services do you get from your broker that keeps you paying him a share of your commissions?  Whatever they are, they comprise the broker’s capital; that together with your labor as the agent creates the economic value.  Elsewhere, I wrote about the relationship between capital and labor in real estate.  The basic equation is capital + labor = production.  So when capital costs go up, labor costs have to go down if production remains the same.  And vice versa.

When Trulia replaces the broker as the #1 source of leads, then the rational agent quite rightly asks, “If I’m getting more leads to my website from Trulia than from my broker’s website, shouldn’t I get a higher split of the commission?”

The same logic goes for franchisors, such as Coldwell Banker or Remax.  If the national Remax site generates fewer leads than Trulia.com, a broker’s incentive to keep paying for use of Remax’s capital (i.e., its website, its platform, etc.) decreases, barring a sufficient increase in production to smooth over such things.

Even if Trulia funnels those leads to Remax National, who in turn funnels it to the franchisee, the rational broker can conclude that they can simply cut out the middleman of Remax and go direct to Trulia.  For that matter, as Trulia continues to do deals with MLSes and REALTOR associations, the rational broker (and agent) can get around all those people taking cuts of their commission checks.

Is there a happy win-win solution here?  I’m not sure.  At the end of the day, the market will flock around the most efficient producer.  If that’s Trulia, then it’s Trulia.  The study results above suggests that it might be.  But then, none of us have any idea of Trulia’s financials… so all this wonderful lead-generation for Trulia might be coming at a loss, which would suggest that it won’t be around long enough to displace any existing players.

One thing that does come to mind for me, however, is that if I were managing a franchisor today, or a large brokerage company today, I might take a look-see at my own lead generation efforts to my members/agents, and compare it with what they’re getting from these various third parties.  Then either prepare to provide value in some other way to continue to justify the cut I am taking, or prepare to invest heavily into capital (i.e., website, lead generation tools, etc.) to compete.  Anything else is shortsighted in the extreme.

-rsh

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Peter Flint Interview and The Significant Misconception

I didn’t realize earlier that the great interviews Dustin Luther got with Marty Frame and Alex Chang that I commented on here and here were of a series. Coz, I’m a RE.net newbie. They’re all worth a read. His latest is no exception. He got some great answers from Peter Flint, CEO of Trulia.com (total aside: Pete looks a little like a more masculine version of this guy, doesn’t he?).

There’s little question that Pete “gets it” about the future of real estate. However, I noticed that he — like many others in our industry — suffers from a cognitive dissonace, that I hereby name, The Significant Misconception.

Among his answers is this passage:

I don’t think it is a stretch to say that the big brokerages are only just beginning to use their websites to create a compelling consumer experience that competes with REALTOR.com. Why do you think it has taken the national brokerages so long to complete on this front?

Building a great site is REALLY tough and it is hard for large brokerage to attract the engineering and design talent to do all this effectively. Brokers should be building strong online experiences, but they shouldn’t be distracted from their strengths and core competency— selling homes!

Now, dozens of executives at large brokerages would heartily agree with Pete. Literally thousands of agents would nod their heads and say, “Preach on, Brotha Petah”.

They all suffer from The Significant Misconception.

(Before you go start making the effigy for the apparent arrogance of yours truly, do bear with me a moment.)

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