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		<title>By: Notorious R.O.B. &#8211; A Few Random Questions About the Latest Rent Report - Notorious R.O.B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notorious R.O.B. &#8211; A Few Random Questions About the Latest Rent Report - Notorious R.O.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The article mentions that college graduates leave over the summer and descend on cities in search of jobs. Okay, so should we assume that the Big Cities are no longer the destination for young college grads? Or are young college grads failing to find jobs at all and simply moving in with their parents? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The article mentions that college graduates leave over the summer and descend on cities in search of jobs. Okay, so should we assume that the Big Cities are no longer the destination for young college grads? Or are young college grads failing to find jobs at all and simply moving in with their parents? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robhahn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to link to &lt;a href=http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/a-tour-through-recession-america/#comment-46724 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt; on a blogpost I read recently from a 20-something:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m smack dab in the center of the lost generation — if we can call it that — in my mid-twenties, stuck in a situation that not one person I know in my age group has managed to escape: the absolute paucity of options regarding what to do with our lives and the creeping fear that everything we do, and everything our friends do, is utterly pointless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We’re unemployed, going back or staying in school, working in bars and call centers or squeaking out some discretionary spending with “communications” degrees. Even the ones with the most to show for their few years of adulthood by acquiring master’s degrees in reasonable and advanced subjects are treading water.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some are carrying out crazy schemes, as twenty somethings are prone to do, by moving to places like West Texas to live the authentic life. But I don’t suspect political instability or any kind of youth power uprising, yet. It’s more a sense of denial that our standard of living is going to be less than our parents. And it isn’t discussed, but the fear pervades everywhere and the potential for some kind of radical adjustment is creeping in. I just don’t know what form it will take or if it will move anywhere at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;Lost Generation&quot;... wow... quite a different ring than the &quot;Millenials&quot; eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to link to <a href=http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/a-tour-through-recession-america/#comment-46724 rel="nofollow">this comment</a> on a blogpost I read recently from a 20-something:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m smack dab in the center of the lost generation — if we can call it that — in my mid-twenties, stuck in a situation that not one person I know in my age group has managed to escape: the absolute paucity of options regarding what to do with our lives and the creeping fear that everything we do, and everything our friends do, is utterly pointless.</p>
<p>We’re unemployed, going back or staying in school, working in bars and call centers or squeaking out some discretionary spending with “communications” degrees. Even the ones with the most to show for their few years of adulthood by acquiring master’s degrees in reasonable and advanced subjects are treading water.</p>
<p>Some are carrying out crazy schemes, as twenty somethings are prone to do, by moving to places like West Texas to live the authentic life. But I don’t suspect political instability or any kind of youth power uprising, yet. It’s more a sense of denial that our standard of living is going to be less than our parents. And it isn’t discussed, but the fear pervades everywhere and the potential for some kind of radical adjustment is creeping in. I just don’t know what form it will take or if it will move anywhere at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>The &#8220;Lost Generation&#8221;&#8230; wow&#8230; quite a different ring than the &#8220;Millenials&#8221; eh?</p>
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		<title>By: robhahn</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/03/10/do-we-believe-in-the-millenials/#comment-2503</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to link to &lt;a href=http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/a-tour-through-recession-america/#comment-46724 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt; on a blogpost I read recently from a 20-something:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m smack dab in the center of the lost generation — if we can call it that — in my mid-twenties, stuck in a situation that not one person I know in my age group has managed to escape: the absolute paucity of options regarding what to do with our lives and the creeping fear that everything we do, and everything our friends do, is utterly pointless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We’re unemployed, going back or staying in school, working in bars and call centers or squeaking out some discretionary spending with “communications” degrees. Even the ones with the most to show for their few years of adulthood by acquiring master’s degrees in reasonable and advanced subjects are treading water.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some are carrying out crazy schemes, as twenty somethings are prone to do, by moving to places like West Texas to live the authentic life. But I don’t suspect political instability or any kind of youth power uprising, yet. It’s more a sense of denial that our standard of living is going to be less than our parents. And it isn’t discussed, but the fear pervades everywhere and the potential for some kind of radical adjustment is creeping in. I just don’t know what form it will take or if it will move anywhere at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &quot;Lost Generation&quot;... wow... quite a different ring than the &quot;Millenials&quot; eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to link to <a href=http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/a-tour-through-recession-america/#comment-46724 rel="nofollow">this comment</a> on a blogpost I read recently from a 20-something:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m smack dab in the center of the lost generation — if we can call it that — in my mid-twenties, stuck in a situation that not one person I know in my age group has managed to escape: the absolute paucity of options regarding what to do with our lives and the creeping fear that everything we do, and everything our friends do, is utterly pointless.</p>
<p>We’re unemployed, going back or staying in school, working in bars and call centers or squeaking out some discretionary spending with “communications” degrees. Even the ones with the most to show for their few years of adulthood by acquiring master’s degrees in reasonable and advanced subjects are treading water.</p>
<p>Some are carrying out crazy schemes, as twenty somethings are prone to do, by moving to places like West Texas to live the authentic life. But I don’t suspect political instability or any kind of youth power uprising, yet. It’s more a sense of denial that our standard of living is going to be less than our parents. And it isn’t discussed, but the fear pervades everywhere and the potential for some kind of radical adjustment is creeping in. I just don’t know what form it will take or if it will move anywhere at all.</p></blockquote>
<p>The &#8220;Lost Generation&#8221;&#8230; wow&#8230; quite a different ring than the &#8220;Millenials&#8221; eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Friday Farewell – Talkin&#39; &#39;bout My Generation &#124; Real Estate &#8230; &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Farewell – Talkin&#39; &#39;bout My Generation &#124; Real Estate &#8230; &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they &#097;&#114;&#101; so important. Yesterday, Mark Madsen &#115;&#101;&#110;&#116; &#109;&#101; this article, &#119;&#104;&#105;&#099;&#104; pretty much sums &#117;&#112; everything &#121;&#111;&#117; need [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Friday Farewell &#8211; Talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout My Generation &#124; Real Estate Industry Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Farewell &#8211; Talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout My Generation &#124; Real Estate Industry Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the new generation of home buyers and why they are so important. Yesterday, Mark Madsen sent me this article, which pretty much sums up everything you need to know about why Millennials matter and how your [...]</description>
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		<title>By: amycesario</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/03/10/do-we-believe-in-the-millenials/#comment-2487</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in Millennials.  They are going to have to be creative to make money.  But I don&#039;t mean creative as in artsy, I mean they will take the jobs that GenXers thought they were &quot;too good&quot; to do and some actually will be creative in what the &quot;next job&quot; is to them.  Many of my clients last year were Mellennials, one was an engineer, one an office manager, another was a financial something, etc. in other words, they all had corporate type jobs. All of their boyfriend/girlfriends/spouses were entrepreneurs...mostly internet based.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They all saw opportunity not only in our real estate market but the job market.  My experience with GenX over the past few years seemed to be &quot;entitled&quot; to everything that seemed just out of their reach (in some cases this proved to be fruitful).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The banks will just have to figure out how to make it possible for the non-W-2 income to qualify to buy a house again.  They have always wanted to run real estate and will continue to be our enemy some years and some years be our best friends. I just hope it doesn&#039;t take as long to adjust as this last adjustment, but change will be continual and there will be another set of reasons to buy and influences like credit scores may not even have the same meaning in a few years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just because the Millenials brains work different from ours and they have a whole different set of influences that we didn&#039;t have doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t smart enough to figure out how to push the changes that need to be made for their survival.  They are making my real estate life better because of all this online marketing, contracting, searching, etc.  I have faith.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m thanking who ever thought up paperless!  What generation was that?  My grandfather the editor and printer of the town newspaper would be crushed that about 5 years ago I figured out how to never have a newspaper in my house but still read the headlines. Don&#039;t you remember your grandparents thinking we would never understand the value of a nickel?  I think we all understand the value now don’t you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From an optomistic born GenXer and mom of a Millenial,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in Millennials.  They are going to have to be creative to make money.  But I don&#39;t mean creative as in artsy, I mean they will take the jobs that GenXers thought they were &#8220;too good&#8221; to do and some actually will be creative in what the &#8220;next job&#8221; is to them.  Many of my clients last year were Mellennials, one was an engineer, one an office manager, another was a financial something, etc. in other words, they all had corporate type jobs. All of their boyfriend/girlfriends/spouses were entrepreneurs&#8230;mostly internet based.</p>
<p>They all saw opportunity not only in our real estate market but the job market.  My experience with GenX over the past few years seemed to be &#8220;entitled&#8221; to everything that seemed just out of their reach (in some cases this proved to be fruitful).</p>
<p>The banks will just have to figure out how to make it possible for the non-W-2 income to qualify to buy a house again.  They have always wanted to run real estate and will continue to be our enemy some years and some years be our best friends. I just hope it doesn&#39;t take as long to adjust as this last adjustment, but change will be continual and there will be another set of reasons to buy and influences like credit scores may not even have the same meaning in a few years.</p>
<p>Just because the Millenials brains work different from ours and they have a whole different set of influences that we didn&#39;t have doesn&#39;t mean they aren&#39;t smart enough to figure out how to push the changes that need to be made for their survival.  They are making my real estate life better because of all this online marketing, contracting, searching, etc.  I have faith.</p>
<p>I&#39;m thanking who ever thought up paperless!  What generation was that?  My grandfather the editor and printer of the town newspaper would be crushed that about 5 years ago I figured out how to never have a newspaper in my house but still read the headlines. Don&#39;t you remember your grandparents thinking we would never understand the value of a nickel?  I think we all understand the value now don’t you?</p>
<p>From an optomistic born GenXer and mom of a Millenial,</p>
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		<title>By: SusieBlackmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusieBlackmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;seeing through the BS of housing.&quot; Doesn&#039;t Nick&#039;s comment say it all!! The younger generation doesn&#039;t have the same idea of family life that many of us in RE did/do. They&#039;ve seen the rampant hypocrisy, not only of housing and cookie cutter developments, but of the American dream as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rob, your posts are always brilliant and insightful, and the comments you inspire are delicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;seeing through the BS of housing.&#8221; Doesn&#39;t Nick&#39;s comment say it all!! The younger generation doesn&#39;t have the same idea of family life that many of us in RE did/do. They&#39;ve seen the rampant hypocrisy, not only of housing and cookie cutter developments, but of the American dream as well. </p>
<p>Rob, your posts are always brilliant and insightful, and the comments you inspire are delicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya P.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought provoking. Frightening. Insightful. I think startlingly accurate and an excellent prediction. Rob you may want to become a professional prognosticator, although I think you already are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes being right isn&#039;t that much fun is it? I work with/have worked with a lot of millenials, and I see many of the points cited in your post, and the sources quoted. I have a great fear of what is coming on July 1 of this year, it is about to get a LOT worse.  My recommendations to anyone in the Real Estate industry right now - save your pennies for a rainy day, and buy a few extra umbrellas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The next sign I plant might well be in my own front yard as I decide which Island nation I am moving to, and on which beach I will be starting my coconut farm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mahalo nui loa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking. Frightening. Insightful. I think startlingly accurate and an excellent prediction. Rob you may want to become a professional prognosticator, although I think you already are.</p>
<p>Sometimes being right isn&#39;t that much fun is it? I work with/have worked with a lot of millenials, and I see many of the points cited in your post, and the sources quoted. I have a great fear of what is coming on July 1 of this year, it is about to get a LOT worse.  My recommendations to anyone in the Real Estate industry right now &#8211; save your pennies for a rainy day, and buy a few extra umbrellas.</p>
<p>The next sign I plant might well be in my own front yard as I decide which Island nation I am moving to, and on which beach I will be starting my coconut farm.</p>
<p>Mahalo nui loa.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Madsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Madsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ages 18-30 are too diverse of a group to put under one banner.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m 32 and have seen this real estate and political landscape significantly change in the past ten years that I&#039;ve been in the mortgage business.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was able to put myself through school @ $3000 / semester (not including books), and it took me a few extra years because I worked full-time.  Partied a little too, but life was good and the world wasn&#039;t in foreclosure or bankruptcy.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Internet was new.  It&#039;s funny, I started an online coupon company in 1998 and was pitching to local businesses that there would be 50 million Internet users within a few years.  Now, American Idol gets that many votes in a night.  Crazy.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I participated in the Subprime, Alt-A and &quot;got a pulse, we&#039;ll finance you&quot; mortgage market, which was perpetuated by the government and Wall Street.  That eventually turned into a big #fail.  Unfortunately, we&#039;re probably going to spend at least the next three years playing the blame game until everyone gets a free home.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Money was made, and lost... But, I&#039;m old enough to believe that everything I am, was or could be is my choice.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, college grads today are entering a world of debt, government spending, bailouts and political spin.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The line between our Constitutional Rights and Privileges is blurred, and it&#039;s unfair to the next generation that the grownups are setting a precedent that it&#039;s OK to demand the government take care of everyone.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have suffocating industry regulations prohibiting anyone from having to make responsible decisions or live with the consequences.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually don&#039;t anticipate the First-Time Home Buyers between the ages of 18-24 to do much research at all about their options, simply because they&#039;re being groomed to despise real estate professionals and just trust that the regulators are there to protect them.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, as Nick mentioned, the Millennials are probably going to spend the next 10 years taking care of their parents and cleaning up the mess that everyone created anyway.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For the kids ages 25-30, they&#039;ve at least had an opportunity to see the power of true entrepreneurship in action.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll feel out of place taking on a free internship to further their education or learn real life lessons about a particular career choice.  Well, provided they can figure out a creative way of affording it.  (Goes back to the entrepreneur culture)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing is for sure, real estate professionals have a challenging road ahead of us to earn back the trust of our clients and referral partners.  If the Internet Generation is our target audience, then they&#039;re going to know how see the BS, regardless of how cool your online presence looks at first impression.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Either way, I hope the Millennials can weather this storm and make our country a better place so that my daughter and new twins on the way have an opportunity to enjoy the same rights that I do as a citizen of the United States of America.  (not the United World Community)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ages 18-30 are too diverse of a group to put under one banner.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m 32 and have seen this real estate and political landscape significantly change in the past ten years that I&#39;ve been in the mortgage business.  </p>
<p>I was able to put myself through school @ $3000 / semester (not including books), and it took me a few extra years because I worked full-time.  Partied a little too, but life was good and the world wasn&#39;t in foreclosure or bankruptcy.  </p>
<p>The Internet was new.  It&#39;s funny, I started an online coupon company in 1998 and was pitching to local businesses that there would be 50 million Internet users within a few years.  Now, American Idol gets that many votes in a night.  Crazy.  </p>
<p>I participated in the Subprime, Alt-A and &#8220;got a pulse, we&#39;ll finance you&#8221; mortgage market, which was perpetuated by the government and Wall Street.  That eventually turned into a big #fail.  Unfortunately, we&#39;re probably going to spend at least the next three years playing the blame game until everyone gets a free home.  </p>
<p>Money was made, and lost&#8230; But, I&#39;m old enough to believe that everything I am, was or could be is my choice.  </p>
<p>However, college grads today are entering a world of debt, government spending, bailouts and political spin.  </p>
<p>The line between our Constitutional Rights and Privileges is blurred, and it&#39;s unfair to the next generation that the grownups are setting a precedent that it&#39;s OK to demand the government take care of everyone.  </p>
<p>We have suffocating industry regulations prohibiting anyone from having to make responsible decisions or live with the consequences.  </p>
<p>I actually don&#39;t anticipate the First-Time Home Buyers between the ages of 18-24 to do much research at all about their options, simply because they&#39;re being groomed to despise real estate professionals and just trust that the regulators are there to protect them.  </p>
<p>And, as Nick mentioned, the Millennials are probably going to spend the next 10 years taking care of their parents and cleaning up the mess that everyone created anyway.  </p>
<p>For the kids ages 25-30, they&#39;ve at least had an opportunity to see the power of true entrepreneurship in action.  I don&#39;t think they&#39;ll feel out of place taking on a free internship to further their education or learn real life lessons about a particular career choice.  Well, provided they can figure out a creative way of affording it.  (Goes back to the entrepreneur culture)</p>
<p>One thing is for sure, real estate professionals have a challenging road ahead of us to earn back the trust of our clients and referral partners.  If the Internet Generation is our target audience, then they&#39;re going to know how see the BS, regardless of how cool your online presence looks at first impression.  </p>
<p>Either way, I hope the Millennials can weather this storm and make our country a better place so that my daughter and new twins on the way have an opportunity to enjoy the same rights that I do as a citizen of the United States of America.  (not the United World Community)</p>
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		<title>By: stevealter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I know what a &quot;Millenial&quot; is.   That&#039;s not very comforting is it?  No one owes you anything.   We all just have this one life and we all want to value fun and friendships but work is a great place to find both.  Our government needs to go after fraud, waste and inefficiency.   Fraud, waste and inefficiency our the enemies of us all.  People who have studied harder, worked harder, and practiced longer are the ones that will have the fullest and most rewarding.  People will sometimes get lucky however my dad always said, the harder you work the luckier you seem to get.  All I can say to those 3 out of 5 that don&#039;t have a job is don&#039;t let life pass you by.  Go out now and make stuff happen.  Go and get an internship by offering to work for free.  I think that they&#039;ll suprise you and end up paying you if they like that free work that you&#039;re doing with a full time paid position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I know what a &#8220;Millenial&#8221; is.   That&#39;s not very comforting is it?  No one owes you anything.   We all just have this one life and we all want to value fun and friendships but work is a great place to find both.  Our government needs to go after fraud, waste and inefficiency.   Fraud, waste and inefficiency our the enemies of us all.  People who have studied harder, worked harder, and practiced longer are the ones that will have the fullest and most rewarding.  People will sometimes get lucky however my dad always said, the harder you work the luckier you seem to get.  All I can say to those 3 out of 5 that don&#39;t have a job is don&#39;t let life pass you by.  Go out now and make stuff happen.  Go and get an internship by offering to work for free.  I think that they&#39;ll suprise you and end up paying you if they like that free work that you&#39;re doing with a full time paid position.</p>
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