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		<title>By: Dual Agency: A rant from @StacyStateham &#124; Nextage Plus</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-5768</link>
		<dc:creator>Dual Agency: A rant from @StacyStateham &#124; Nextage Plus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] clients sign disclosures necessarily solves the problem, either.  In a post by Notorious R.O.B. “Random Thoughts on Dual Agency” earlier this year he hit the nail on the head… [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] clients sign disclosures necessarily solves the problem, either.  In a post by Notorious R.O.B. “Random Thoughts on Dual Agency” earlier this year he hit the nail on the head… [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Britt</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2505</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha R.O.B, We&#039;re a big fan of this article over at Hawaii Life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha R.O.B, We&#39;re a big fan of this article over at Hawaii Life.</p>
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		<title>By: Loyalty And Obedience To Our Clients &#171; Hawaii Real Estate Market</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2409</link>
		<dc:creator>Loyalty And Obedience To Our Clients &#171; Hawaii Real Estate Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Random Thoughts on Dual Agency [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin Britt</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2408</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha R.O.B, We&#039;re a big fan of this article over at Hawaii Life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha R.O.B, We&#39;re a big fan of this article over at Hawaii Life.</p>
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		<title>By: jaysneed</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2404</link>
		<dc:creator>jaysneed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.altisourcehomes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.altisourcehomes.com&lt;/a&gt; employed brokers can not take the buy side and is often commented with more satisfaction during the home sale process.  If both sides are taken, it can be a slippery slope but in the times of new services for buyers, agents/broker seem to need to re-invent themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know that the <a href="http://www.altisourcehomes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.altisourcehomes.com</a> employed brokers can not take the buy side and is often commented with more satisfaction during the home sale process.  If both sides are taken, it can be a slippery slope but in the times of new services for buyers, agents/broker seem to need to re-invent themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Beall</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2398</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Beall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post.  The real estate industry desperately needs this conversation to be more in the public eye.  I&#039;d like to share this link I wrote on the subject for our firm: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hawaiilife.com/articles/2008/09/the-shortcomings-of-dual-agency/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hawaiilife.com/articles/2008/09/the-...&lt;/a&gt;  Aloha, Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post.  The real estate industry desperately needs this conversation to be more in the public eye.  I&#39;d like to share this link I wrote on the subject for our firm: <a href="http://www.hawaiilife.com/articles/2008/09/the-shortcomings-of-dual-agency/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hawaiilife.com/articles/2008/09/the-&#8230;</a>  Aloha, Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2394</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think one possible solution is for all clients to be the broker&#039;s clients.&quot;&lt;br&gt;In California the client does belong to the broker. That is why dual agency is alive. It allows the broker to have two different agents represent two different principles in the same transaction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jay, making an exception for a short sale isn&#039;t a good idea depending on the state. If the seller is facing a deficiency, then the listing agent should be trying to get the highest price possible, not the lowest. You cant do that and represent the buyer adequately in that scenario.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I dont have a problem with dual agency as it applies to the broker as long as one agent isnt representing both sides. I know that flies in the face of JD&#039;s point, but that means that brokers need to hire better with regard to both agents and management. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agency and fiduciary are not that difficult to get right. Its simply a choice to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think one possible solution is for all clients to be the broker&#39;s clients.&#8221;<br />In California the client does belong to the broker. That is why dual agency is alive. It allows the broker to have two different agents represent two different principles in the same transaction.</p>
<p>Jay, making an exception for a short sale isn&#39;t a good idea depending on the state. If the seller is facing a deficiency, then the listing agent should be trying to get the highest price possible, not the lowest. You cant do that and represent the buyer adequately in that scenario.</p>
<p>I dont have a problem with dual agency as it applies to the broker as long as one agent isnt representing both sides. I know that flies in the face of JD&#39;s point, but that means that brokers need to hire better with regard to both agents and management. </p>
<p>Agency and fiduciary are not that difficult to get right. Its simply a choice to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: robhahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>robhahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jay -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think one possible solution is for all clients to be the broker&#039;s clients.  So for example, what you wrote would be more or less impossible: &quot;If one of my agents had a buyer and another had the seller in the same transaction, I am *completely* confident that each of their clients would be fully represented. How a broker with 2000 agents could have that same confidence is beyond me.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That would be rewritten as, &quot;I have XX clients, with 18 agents to assist me, and I have to avoid conflict of interest.&quot;  I know for a fact that you take your responsibility very seriously, and that you tend to be on the side of brokers who are in the real estate business, rather than the recruiting business.  But that has consequences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The megabrokerages could find a way.  They could, for example, simply refuse to do buyer *agency* deals altogether; their buyer agents should be considered as &#039;salespeople&#039; in much the same way that when you walk into a Mercedes dealership, those helpful people are not representing your interests.  Customer service still matters to those salespeople who are trying to convince you to make a very large purchase.  In fact, you could show houses, advise buyers, and so on, without taking on the *agency* relationship that results in fiduciary responsibility.  As long as the buyer knows that, I don&#039;t see a problem.  If the buyer wanted professional representation, he can always go hire a buyer&#039;s agent out of pocket.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jay -</p>
<p>I think one possible solution is for all clients to be the broker&#39;s clients.  So for example, what you wrote would be more or less impossible: &#8220;If one of my agents had a buyer and another had the seller in the same transaction, I am *completely* confident that each of their clients would be fully represented. How a broker with 2000 agents could have that same confidence is beyond me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>That would be rewritten as, &#8220;I have XX clients, with 18 agents to assist me, and I have to avoid conflict of interest.&#8221;  I know for a fact that you take your responsibility very seriously, and that you tend to be on the side of brokers who are in the real estate business, rather than the recruiting business.  But that has consequences.</p>
<p>The megabrokerages could find a way.  They could, for example, simply refuse to do buyer *agency* deals altogether; their buyer agents should be considered as &#39;salespeople&#39; in much the same way that when you walk into a Mercedes dealership, those helpful people are not representing your interests.  Customer service still matters to those salespeople who are trying to convince you to make a very large purchase.  In fact, you could show houses, advise buyers, and so on, without taking on the *agency* relationship that results in fiduciary responsibility.  As long as the buyer knows that, I don&#39;t see a problem.  If the buyer wanted professional representation, he can always go hire a buyer&#39;s agent out of pocket.</p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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		<title>By: The Ten Best in RE.net This Week: Feb. 20, 2010 Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ten Best in RE.net This Week: Feb. 20, 2010 Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ) Random Thoughts of Dual Agency – If you follow RE.net posts on a regular basis I am sure you read a post or two about Dual [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2010/02/18/random-thoughts-on-dual-agency/#comment-2391</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s part of Virginia&#039;s section about Dual Agency&#039;s limitations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because of the Broker&#039;s dual representation in such a transaction, Buyer understands that Buyer and the seller have the responsibility of making their own decisions as to what terms are to be included in any purchase agreement. Buyer should be aware of the implications of Broker&#039;s dual representation, including the limitation on Broker&#039;s ability to represent the seller or Buyer fully and exclusively. Buyer understands that Buyer may seek independent legal counsel in order to assist with any matter relating to a purchase agreement or to the transaction that is the subject matter of a purchase agreement. Provided Broker has acted in accordance with its obligations under this Agreement, Broker shall not be liable for any claims, damages, losses, expenses or liabilities arising from Broker&#039;s role as dual representative. Buyer shall have a duty to protect its own interests and should read any purchase agreement carefully to insure that it accurately sets forth terms Buyer wants included in the purchase agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#39;s part of Virginia&#39;s section about Dual Agency&#39;s limitations.</p>
<p>Because of the Broker&#39;s dual representation in such a transaction, Buyer understands that Buyer and the seller have the responsibility of making their own decisions as to what terms are to be included in any purchase agreement. Buyer should be aware of the implications of Broker&#39;s dual representation, including the limitation on Broker&#39;s ability to represent the seller or Buyer fully and exclusively. Buyer understands that Buyer may seek independent legal counsel in order to assist with any matter relating to a purchase agreement or to the transaction that is the subject matter of a purchase agreement. Provided Broker has acted in accordance with its obligations under this Agreement, Broker shall not be liable for any claims, damages, losses, expenses or liabilities arising from Broker&#39;s role as dual representative. Buyer shall have a duty to protect its own interests and should read any purchase agreement carefully to insure that it accurately sets forth terms Buyer wants included in the purchase agreement.</p>
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