Comments on: Of Flamewars, Personal Attacks, and Social Media

By: miamism

miamism — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:04:14 +0000

You can single me out any time Rob!

By: miamism

miamism — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:04:14 +0000

You can single me out any time Rob!

By: robhahn

robhahn — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:39:41 +0000

Wow, “butt-buddies” Greg? Really? What a way to wrap up your… ah… “argument”. Homophobic much, or just a Freudian slip?

Inquiring minds want to know.

By: robhahn

robhahn — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:36:34 +0000

Oh, I hear ya, Ines. And I know you're really fun in a good debate or two.

I just used your comment as an example of the general tendency of which we all are guilty. I'm sorry if it came off as singling you out — that was not my intent.

It was just a very useful jumping point for the overall discussion about levels of politeness vs. legitimacy.

-rsh

By: sueadler

sueadler — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:32:12 +0000

That guy Greg has anger issues. He should have handled this privately. He came off so poorly in which only served to dilute his message, IMHO.

By: brandie young

brandie young — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:56:57 +0000

I always suspected you were a slut … not that there's anything wrong with that. xo

By: miamism

miamism — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:43:12 +0000

Rob, I think you know me well by now – I love a good argument and don't mind controversy at all, but the personal attacks just blow my mind. I seriously sat there and watched Greg's video several times to try to decipher facts and fill in the gaps and ended up falling short. Of course the whole thing lost track of the original point and nothing was achieved.

I think somewhere in that thread of comments, someone made a suggestion that a manual or sorts be created for rebarcamps (it's irony at its best that an “unconference” would need a manual), but I think a lot of these problems arise from lack of clarity from the individual organizers. I've seen Brad, Andy and Todd taking their time and inviting many of us that have organized these events to participate in conference calls to help future planners. I've seen people start out with the whole wrong concept (starting with FAR who recently contacted me and now understands how these work). So I don't want to make your post about barcamps, but the whole point, I think, had to do with the organization of rbcin and how maybe they were organizing an event that didn't stick to the original spirit to which these were intended. It wasn't about Todd, it wasn't about Greg, and it wasn't about a Governor getting his feelings hurt.

By: startabuzz

startabuzz — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:19:40 +0000

There is much to digest here. First, a real dialogue about the line between our personal and professional lives, or if it even exists, should be started ... though I don't think this post is its place.

As for yesterday's melee, I don't have all of the information, so I won't get too involved in the he-said/he-said stuff. I'm sure that there are valid points on both sides, just as I'd wager that all of this has gotten blown out of proportion.

As I said yesterday, personal attacks, such as this, don't make your complaint illegitimate, but they dilute your message. We all get angry. There are times when each of us wants to scream and yell and throw a fit. But it's best to keep those feelings in check. Take a step back, take a deep breath. THEN voice your complaint. Do it intelligently. Your argument will be far better made once the steam has fully exited the stratosphere.

By: Duke Long

Duke Long — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:46:07 +0000

Rob, as usual your post and the people commenting on it clearly see the real issue.

By: uberVU - social comments

uberVU - social comments — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:35:09 +0000

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