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	<title>Comments on: Why Social Media Might Be All Hype After All</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel, the Real Estate Zebra</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, the Real Estate Zebra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, Mr. Hahn, as usual.

You can&#039;t erase decades of legacy media influence on the human psyche in just a few years of twitter and blogging.  Those sources will still matter to most people, just less and less going forward.  The hierarchy of importance for media outlets has been well established for at least 2 generations of Americans.  That ain&#039;t gonna change overnight, no matter how many people reach Techcrunch or Mashable.  

Not to mention, much of the target audience for some of the folks who are in the social media consulting business are the type of folks who value those sources, so. . . 

I was interviewed and quoted for a Wall Street Journal article about twitter for business a few months back.  My Mom was thrilled, my mother-in-law was thrilled.  My initial reaction was that it was cool.  Then I saw the paper sitting on my kitchen counter and thought--  eh.  Five years from now, the reaction from the new generation of digital natives will probably be something along the lines of, &quot;so what?&quot;  

That article would lend me credibility among certain circles, and absolutely nothing among others. It&#039;s all a matter of which circle I would rather be in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, Mr. Hahn, as usual.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t erase decades of legacy media influence on the human psyche in just a few years of twitter and blogging.  Those sources will still matter to most people, just less and less going forward.  The hierarchy of importance for media outlets has been well established for at least 2 generations of Americans.  That ain&#8217;t gonna change overnight, no matter how many people reach Techcrunch or Mashable.  </p>
<p>Not to mention, much of the target audience for some of the folks who are in the social media consulting business are the type of folks who value those sources, so. . . </p>
<p>I was interviewed and quoted for a Wall Street Journal article about twitter for business a few months back.  My Mom was thrilled, my mother-in-law was thrilled.  My initial reaction was that it was cool.  Then I saw the paper sitting on my kitchen counter and thought&#8211;  eh.  Five years from now, the reaction from the new generation of digital natives will probably be something along the lines of, &#8220;so what?&#8221;  </p>
<p>That article would lend me credibility among certain circles, and absolutely nothing among others. It&#8217;s all a matter of which circle I would rather be in.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel, the Real Estate Zebra</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel, the Real Estate Zebra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, Mr. Hahn, as usual.

You can&#039;t erase decades of legacy media influence on the human psyche in just a few years of twitter and blogging.  Those sources will still matter to most people, just less and less going forward.  The hierarchy of importance for media outlets has been well established for at least 2 generations of Americans.  That ain&#039;t gonna change overnight, no matter how many people reach Techcrunch or Mashable.  

Not to mention, much of the target audience for some of the folks who are in the social media consulting business are the type of folks who value those sources, so. . . 

I was interviewed and quoted for a Wall Street Journal article about twitter for business a few months back.  My Mom was thrilled, my mother-in-law was thrilled.  My initial reaction was that it was cool.  Then I saw the paper sitting on my kitchen counter and thought--  eh.  Five years from now, the reaction from the new generation of digital natives will probably be something along the lines of, &quot;so what?&quot;  

That article would lend me credibility among certain circles, and absolutely nothing among others. It&#039;s all a matter of which circle I would rather be in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, Mr. Hahn, as usual.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t erase decades of legacy media influence on the human psyche in just a few years of twitter and blogging.  Those sources will still matter to most people, just less and less going forward.  The hierarchy of importance for media outlets has been well established for at least 2 generations of Americans.  That ain&#8217;t gonna change overnight, no matter how many people reach Techcrunch or Mashable.  </p>
<p>Not to mention, much of the target audience for some of the folks who are in the social media consulting business are the type of folks who value those sources, so. . . </p>
<p>I was interviewed and quoted for a Wall Street Journal article about twitter for business a few months back.  My Mom was thrilled, my mother-in-law was thrilled.  My initial reaction was that it was cool.  Then I saw the paper sitting on my kitchen counter and thought&#8211;  eh.  Five years from now, the reaction from the new generation of digital natives will probably be something along the lines of, &#8220;so what?&#8221;  </p>
<p>That article would lend me credibility among certain circles, and absolutely nothing among others. It&#8217;s all a matter of which circle I would rather be in.</p>
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		<title>By: Ines</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-1945</link>
		<dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fanatics afterall - But not in the true meaning of the word if they doubt the medium and rely on other resources.  Leave it to Rob to unleash the Kryptonite (wink)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanatics afterall &#8211; But not in the true meaning of the word if they doubt the medium and rely on other resources.  Leave it to Rob to unleash the Kryptonite (wink)</p>
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		<title>By: Ines</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-4787</link>
		<dc:creator>Ines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fanatics afterall - But not in the true meaning of the word if they doubt the medium and rely on other resources.  Leave it to Rob to unleash the Kryptonite (wink)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanatics afterall &#8211; But not in the true meaning of the word if they doubt the medium and rely on other resources.  Leave it to Rob to unleash the Kryptonite (wink)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hahn</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ines -

Heya darlin&#039; :)  Of course there can be a balance.  But not if the SM activists/leaders are claiming that Social Media is a Major Paradigm Shift that Changes Everything!!1!BBQ1!one!!

I&#039;ve always thought that the fundamental shift happened when the Internet became widespread back in 1996 or so (or earlier if you were on the pre-Netscape academic Internets).  But even then, marketing itself did not change so fundamentally.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard you say that social media means the end of business as usual; you&#039;ve always characterized it as yet another arrow in the quiver -- a very powerful one, but just another tool.  The leaders and the savants, on the other hand, hype the living crap out of social media.  Whuffie Factor is one of the prime examples.

I think if someone is going to talk the talk, then it&#039;s only fair to take a look at whether s/he is walking the walk.

-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ines -</p>
<p>Heya darlin&#8217; <img src='http://www.notorious-rob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Of course there can be a balance.  But not if the SM activists/leaders are claiming that Social Media is a Major Paradigm Shift that Changes Everything!!1!BBQ1!one!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that the fundamental shift happened when the Internet became widespread back in 1996 or so (or earlier if you were on the pre-Netscape academic Internets).  But even then, marketing itself did not change so fundamentally.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard you say that social media means the end of business as usual; you&#8217;ve always characterized it as yet another arrow in the quiver &#8212; a very powerful one, but just another tool.  The leaders and the savants, on the other hand, hype the living crap out of social media.  Whuffie Factor is one of the prime examples.</p>
<p>I think if someone is going to talk the talk, then it&#8217;s only fair to take a look at whether s/he is walking the walk.</p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hahn</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-4786</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ines -

Heya darlin&#039; :)  Of course there can be a balance.  But not if the SM activists/leaders are claiming that Social Media is a Major Paradigm Shift that Changes Everything!!1!BBQ1!one!!

I&#039;ve always thought that the fundamental shift happened when the Internet became widespread back in 1996 or so (or earlier if you were on the pre-Netscape academic Internets).  But even then, marketing itself did not change so fundamentally.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever heard you say that social media means the end of business as usual; you&#039;ve always characterized it as yet another arrow in the quiver -- a very powerful one, but just another tool.  The leaders and the savants, on the other hand, hype the living crap out of social media.  Whuffie Factor is one of the prime examples.

I think if someone is going to talk the talk, then it&#039;s only fair to take a look at whether s/he is walking the walk.

-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ines -</p>
<p>Heya darlin&#8217; <img src='http://www.notorious-rob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Of course there can be a balance.  But not if the SM activists/leaders are claiming that Social Media is a Major Paradigm Shift that Changes Everything!!1!BBQ1!one!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that the fundamental shift happened when the Internet became widespread back in 1996 or so (or earlier if you were on the pre-Netscape academic Internets).  But even then, marketing itself did not change so fundamentally.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard you say that social media means the end of business as usual; you&#8217;ve always characterized it as yet another arrow in the quiver &#8212; a very powerful one, but just another tool.  The leaders and the savants, on the other hand, hype the living crap out of social media.  Whuffie Factor is one of the prime examples.</p>
<p>I think if someone is going to talk the talk, then it&#8217;s only fair to take a look at whether s/he is walking the walk.</p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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		<title>By: ines</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator>ines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob darling, you are such an extremist and that&#039;s why I love you.  But can&#039;t there be a balance?  Isn&#039;t Social Media another tool in our marketing bag of tricks?  I still do some traditional marketing and I look forward to being picked up by the local media and featured in the local paper and news channels. It means more eyes and a different type of exposure.

I totally get your point about the illuminati not being completely &quot;transparent&quot; (talk about a play-on-words) - and as much as I am a total SM activist, there is still a lot of hype and status associated with &quot;legacy media&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob darling, you are such an extremist and that&#8217;s why I love you.  But can&#8217;t there be a balance?  Isn&#8217;t Social Media another tool in our marketing bag of tricks?  I still do some traditional marketing and I look forward to being picked up by the local media and featured in the local paper and news channels. It means more eyes and a different type of exposure.</p>
<p>I totally get your point about the illuminati not being completely &#8220;transparent&#8221; (talk about a play-on-words) &#8211; and as much as I am a total SM activist, there is still a lot of hype and status associated with &#8220;legacy media&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ines</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-4785</link>
		<dc:creator>ines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob darling, you are such an extremist and that&#039;s why I love you.  But can&#039;t there be a balance?  Isn&#039;t Social Media another tool in our marketing bag of tricks?  I still do some traditional marketing and I look forward to being picked up by the local media and featured in the local paper and news channels. It means more eyes and a different type of exposure.

I totally get your point about the illuminati not being completely &quot;transparent&quot; (talk about a play-on-words) - and as much as I am a total SM activist, there is still a lot of hype and status associated with &quot;legacy media&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob darling, you are such an extremist and that&#8217;s why I love you.  But can&#8217;t there be a balance?  Isn&#8217;t Social Media another tool in our marketing bag of tricks?  I still do some traditional marketing and I look forward to being picked up by the local media and featured in the local paper and news channels. It means more eyes and a different type of exposure.</p>
<p>I totally get your point about the illuminati not being completely &#8220;transparent&#8221; (talk about a play-on-words) &#8211; and as much as I am a total SM activist, there is still a lot of hype and status associated with &#8220;legacy media&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hahn</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit of an aside, but re: DISC and real estate agents not liking tracking and paperwork...

That is precisely why I advocate the BROKER (or the Admin/Operations staff in the case of teams) focus on tracking and metrics. :)  That would be one solid value that they can provide to the agent.

-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of an aside, but re: DISC and real estate agents not liking tracking and paperwork&#8230;</p>
<p>That is precisely why I advocate the BROKER (or the Admin/Operations staff in the case of teams) focus on tracking and metrics. <img src='http://www.notorious-rob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   That would be one solid value that they can provide to the agent.</p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hahn</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/10/24/why-social-media-might-be-all-hype-after-all/#comment-4784</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit of an aside, but re: DISC and real estate agents not liking tracking and paperwork...

That is precisely why I advocate the BROKER (or the Admin/Operations staff in the case of teams) focus on tracking and metrics. :)  That would be one solid value that they can provide to the agent.

-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of an aside, but re: DISC and real estate agents not liking tracking and paperwork&#8230;</p>
<p>That is precisely why I advocate the BROKER (or the Admin/Operations staff in the case of teams) focus on tracking and metrics. <img src='http://www.notorious-rob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   That would be one solid value that they can provide to the agent.</p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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