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		<title>By: Tom Ferry</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1619</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Ferry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

I just caught this in a search while pondering the whole &quot;human brand&quot; conversation.  I love what you said and agree 100%.  Look forward to future reads.  And maybe see you at a REBarCamp soon.

TF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>I just caught this in a search while pondering the whole &#8220;human brand&#8221; conversation.  I love what you said and agree 100%.  Look forward to future reads.  And maybe see you at a REBarCamp soon.</p>
<p>TF</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging is Forever: Branding vs. Lead Generation &#124; Notorious R.O.B. - Conversations on Marketing, Technology, Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1494</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogging is Forever: Branding vs. Lead Generation &#124; Notorious R.O.B. - Conversations on Marketing, Technology, Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] media for real estate.  We explore the difference between branding and lead generation, based on this post of mine on branding and social media that Stacey found [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] media for real estate.  We explore the difference between branding and lead generation, based on this post of mine on branding and social media that Stacey found [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Top 5 Mortgage Blog Posts &#124; Mortgage CRM</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>Top 5 Mortgage Blog Posts &#124; Mortgage CRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thoughts on Social Media and Branding - Rob Hahn describes branding as a promise and social media is a very powerful branding chanel. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay Thompson -- The Ultimate Real Estate Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Thompson -- The Ultimate Real Estate Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So well stated. With his permission, I’d like to work that quote him in my teachings as well. Jay?&quot;

Well of course you can use it Stacey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So well stated. With his permission, I’d like to work that quote him in my teachings as well. Jay?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well of course you can use it Stacey!</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Harmon</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If 7DS doesn&#039;t work out, I think the Rob Hahn comedy circuit is in order...but maybe it is just because I&#039;m the topic of the opening paragraph that I&#039;m sitting here so amused.  Clearly you survived just fine without me and thank you for writing this post to fill us in on what we missed.  

Some great points in here that need to be championed out to agents everywhere.  When I discuss social media with agents, I use the coffee shop analogy.  I ask them if they were to spend an hour in the same coffee shop everyday for a month would they walk away with some real estate leads?  I have yet to meet a Realtor who says no.  You reminded me that, just like Facebook, people don&#039;t go to coffee shops to look for property either.  And the agent that walks into Starbucks, stands at the door, and annouces his new listing and starts handing out flyers, will have about as much success as he will doing the same thing on Twitter.

It seems so clear to me.  Maybe when explained in that way, a few Realtors will see the light too.

I also love Jay&#039;s comment:  Use this medium for what it does best — allowing you to be you, allowing you to reach people, to engage with them, to get your message — your brand promise — out.  

So well stated.  With his permission, I&#039;d like to work that quote him in my teachings as well.  Jay?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 7DS doesn&#8217;t work out, I think the Rob Hahn comedy circuit is in order&#8230;but maybe it is just because I&#8217;m the topic of the opening paragraph that I&#8217;m sitting here so amused.  Clearly you survived just fine without me and thank you for writing this post to fill us in on what we missed.  </p>
<p>Some great points in here that need to be championed out to agents everywhere.  When I discuss social media with agents, I use the coffee shop analogy.  I ask them if they were to spend an hour in the same coffee shop everyday for a month would they walk away with some real estate leads?  I have yet to meet a Realtor who says no.  You reminded me that, just like Facebook, people don&#8217;t go to coffee shops to look for property either.  And the agent that walks into Starbucks, stands at the door, and annouces his new listing and starts handing out flyers, will have about as much success as he will doing the same thing on Twitter.</p>
<p>It seems so clear to me.  Maybe when explained in that way, a few Realtors will see the light too.</p>
<p>I also love Jay&#8217;s comment:  Use this medium for what it does best — allowing you to be you, allowing you to reach people, to engage with them, to get your message — your brand promise — out.  </p>
<p>So well stated.  With his permission, I&#8217;d like to work that quote him in my teachings as well.  Jay?  <img src='http://www.notorious-rob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll agree that the R.O.B. usually generates awesome content, this post is no different and I agree with it completely, My only complaint is that you didn&#039;t just start with the 3 bullet summary and save me some time :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll agree that the R.O.B. usually generates awesome content, this post is no different and I agree with it completely, My only complaint is that you didn&#8217;t just start with the 3 bullet summary and save me some time <img src='http://www.notorious-rob.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Douglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Jay said, I have an agent in the San Diego market with several twitter accounts that tweets about every 4 to 5 minutes - top producer - 20 years experience - or posts to a 3 month old blog post.  From the consumers point of view I can&#039;t imagine this would be effective.

Using twitter and blogging to provide good information and let our personality and ideals through is what it is all about.  It&#039;s also about being free with the information, rather than trying to hold to the old gatekeeper ideals of days long gone.

Rob, like Jay said, give us a break and write a bad blog post once in a while, LOL.  Happy 4th</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Jay said, I have an agent in the San Diego market with several twitter accounts that tweets about every 4 to 5 minutes &#8211; top producer &#8211; 20 years experience &#8211; or posts to a 3 month old blog post.  From the consumers point of view I can&#8217;t imagine this would be effective.</p>
<p>Using twitter and blogging to provide good information and let our personality and ideals through is what it is all about.  It&#8217;s also about being free with the information, rather than trying to hold to the old gatekeeper ideals of days long gone.</p>
<p>Rob, like Jay said, give us a break and write a bad blog post once in a while, LOL.  Happy 4th</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Thompson -- The Ultimate Real Estate Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1476</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Thompson -- The Ultimate Real Estate Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, do you ever write something that&#039;s just crap Rob? Honestly, it&#039;s kind of annoying that you pump out thought-provoking post after post. You&#039;re not human. Do me a favor and serve up a loser every now and then, it&#039;ll make me feel better about myself. 

Love this post. I found it interesting that you mentioned BMW a couple of times. As the proud owner of a brand new (to me, as it is actually very gently used) BMW, I find this particularly interesting. 

I can not recite any specific television, newsprint, magazine, whatever ad for BMW. I am, of course, familiar with the &quot;The Ultimate Driving Machine&quot; tag line. (How is it that I know that, but can&#039;t recall any specific marketing for it?)

And you know what? BMW backs that tag line up. That car is bad ass and WAY fun to drive. 

I&#039;ve owned a BMW for all of one week. And I&#039;m already an advocate for them. My neighbor today asked me if I liked it and I sounded like a freaking BMW poster boy.

Now had I slipped behind the wheel and my first impression had been &quot;Meh. What&#039;s the big deal?&quot;, things would be completely different. Instead, BMW &lt;i&gt;delivered&lt;/i&gt;. My initial reaction was, &quot;Holy shit this really IS the Ultimate Driving Machine!&quot;

They deliver on their promise. That is effective beyond comprehension.

As for social media bieng a poor tool for lead generation, I couldn&#039;t agree more. Yes, I can say I&#039;ve &quot;gotten clients&quot; from Twitter. But it wasn&#039;t via &quot;lead generation&quot; tactics. It was just me being me and for whatever reason people choosing to utilize my services. Every single day I see agents on twitter shouting out (into a relative vacuum) &quot;Call me! I can sell your house! I&#039;m a top producer!&quot; and no one knows a flipping thing about them. WHY would someone call you? Just because you ask them to? 

Use this medium for what it does best -- allowing you to be you, allowing you to reach people, to &lt;i&gt;engage&lt;/i&gt; with them, to get your message -- your brand promise -- out. 

Just be sure you deliver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, do you ever write something that&#8217;s just crap Rob? Honestly, it&#8217;s kind of annoying that you pump out thought-provoking post after post. You&#8217;re not human. Do me a favor and serve up a loser every now and then, it&#8217;ll make me feel better about myself. </p>
<p>Love this post. I found it interesting that you mentioned BMW a couple of times. As the proud owner of a brand new (to me, as it is actually very gently used) BMW, I find this particularly interesting. </p>
<p>I can not recite any specific television, newsprint, magazine, whatever ad for BMW. I am, of course, familiar with the &#8220;The Ultimate Driving Machine&#8221; tag line. (How is it that I know that, but can&#8217;t recall any specific marketing for it?)</p>
<p>And you know what? BMW backs that tag line up. That car is bad ass and WAY fun to drive. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve owned a BMW for all of one week. And I&#8217;m already an advocate for them. My neighbor today asked me if I liked it and I sounded like a freaking BMW poster boy.</p>
<p>Now had I slipped behind the wheel and my first impression had been &#8220;Meh. What&#8217;s the big deal?&#8221;, things would be completely different. Instead, BMW <i>delivered</i>. My initial reaction was, &#8220;Holy shit this really IS the Ultimate Driving Machine!&#8221;</p>
<p>They deliver on their promise. That is effective beyond comprehension.</p>
<p>As for social media bieng a poor tool for lead generation, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Yes, I can say I&#8217;ve &#8220;gotten clients&#8221; from Twitter. But it wasn&#8217;t via &#8220;lead generation&#8221; tactics. It was just me being me and for whatever reason people choosing to utilize my services. Every single day I see agents on twitter shouting out (into a relative vacuum) &#8220;Call me! I can sell your house! I&#8217;m a top producer!&#8221; and no one knows a flipping thing about them. WHY would someone call you? Just because you ask them to? </p>
<p>Use this medium for what it does best &#8212; allowing you to be you, allowing you to reach people, to <i>engage</i> with them, to get your message &#8212; your brand promise &#8212; out. </p>
<p>Just be sure you deliver.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Douglass</title>
		<link>http://www.notorious-rob.com/2009/07/02/thoughts-on-social-media-and-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-1475</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Promises are everything, keep it simple and do everything you say, and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Promises are everything, keep it simple and do everything you say, and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was fantastic.  Her name is Kathy Klingaman, with Klingaman Creative -- a design shop based in Newport Beach.

-rsh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was fantastic.  Her name is Kathy Klingaman, with Klingaman Creative &#8212; a design shop based in Newport Beach.</p>
<p>-rsh</p>
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