Comments on: Culture of Arrogance vs. Culture of Ignorance http://www.notorious-rob.com/2008/03/05/culture-of-arrogance-vs-culture-of-ignorance/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss On Marketing, Technology, and Real Estate Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:05:51 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: -Rob http://www.notorious-rob.com/2008/03/05/culture-of-arrogance-vs-culture-of-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-142 -Rob Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:28:01 +0000 http://robhahn.wordpress.com/?p=79#comment-142 Hey Pat - So glad you're not pissed off. :) Since that was not my intent. I just think we might be making too big a deal with this web 2.0, community-generated-content, passion of the crowds, etc. stuff. The methodology of the campaigns are distinct, but I think it's too big a leap of inference to look at Obama campaign and draw the conclusion that it's about some sort of new cultural phenomenon. If anything, his campaign is based on a very old cultural phenomenon: <b>oratory</b>. That dates back to Greek times with Pericles. I just don't know what is meant by "people who have adopted a culture 2.0 perspective." Liberals have been waiting decades for a charismatic leader who makes pretty speeches without any substance, since the substance of the liberal position is fairly unpopular with the American public. People want honesty and no bullshit -- whether in politics or in buying houses or looking at cars. The web just makes that more likely than before. The desire has always been there, and it isn't a cultural shift, IMHO. Ultimately, I think the Obama campaign (and if he actually wins, his administration) will disappoint millions of people because it lacks that fundamental honesty. It's artful instead of authentic. Same can be said for most marketing campaigns today. -rsh Hey Pat -

So glad you’re not pissed off. :) Since that was not my intent.

I just think we might be making too big a deal with this web 2.0, community-generated-content, passion of the crowds, etc. stuff.

The methodology of the campaigns are distinct, but I think it’s too big a leap of inference to look at Obama campaign and draw the conclusion that it’s about some sort of new cultural phenomenon. If anything, his campaign is based on a very old cultural phenomenon: oratory. That dates back to Greek times with Pericles.

I just don’t know what is meant by “people who have adopted a culture 2.0 perspective.” Liberals have been waiting decades for a charismatic leader who makes pretty speeches without any substance, since the substance of the liberal position is fairly unpopular with the American public.

People want honesty and no bullshit — whether in politics or in buying houses or looking at cars. The web just makes that more likely than before. The desire has always been there, and it isn’t a cultural shift, IMHO. Ultimately, I think the Obama campaign (and if he actually wins, his administration) will disappoint millions of people because it lacks that fundamental honesty. It’s artful instead of authentic. Same can be said for most marketing campaigns today.

-rsh

]]> By: Pat Kitano http://www.notorious-rob.com/2008/03/05/culture-of-arrogance-vs-culture-of-ignorance/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Pat Kitano Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:41:55 +0000 http://robhahn.wordpress.com/?p=79#comment-143 Hey Rob, well thought out addition to the post. I should mention that my post was more focused on the methodologies of the two candidates, not on the efficacy of the methods on the general populace (nor on the actual politics...). Obviously, kitchen sink campaigns still work... Simply put, I just think there is a growing subset of people who have adopted Web 2.0 / Culture 2.0 perspectives and prefer to be treated less arrogantly. Hey Rob, well thought out addition to the post. I should mention that my post was more focused on the methodologies of the two candidates, not on the efficacy of the methods on the general populace (nor on the actual politics…). Obviously, kitchen sink campaigns still work… Simply put, I just think there is a growing subset of people who have adopted Web 2.0 / Culture 2.0 perspectives and prefer to be treated less arrogantly.

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